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    Just a couple of suggestions:

    1. Game Speed - Allow for different speeds within the game (During Match). At the moment it all seems just a little bit too slow.

    2. Game time - Allow each match to take a certain amount of time (e.g FIFA - 2 minutes halves, 3 minute halves etc.)

    3. Have global news announcements for big transfers - e.g. Ronaldo to Real Madrid should have an announcement on my personal page.

    4. Increase starting rating to 6, decrease amount of rating lost due to not being passed ball (e.g. If I start as a sub in minute 80, and don't touch the ball, my rating will be a four... I havn't done anything, so should be average?)

    5. Better match engine - too many long balls, too big a gap between midfield and attack, strikers never pass the ball sideways when a teammate is in a better position)

    6. Description of 'Advanced Dribbling' under help on match options

    7. Better sponsors - It is possible to get sponsor percentage without sponsors, and sponsor random events without also.

    8. Hotlinks - Clicking on players should allow you to go to their page, with their stats etcetera.

    9. Player History - Each Player should have his in-game history available.

    10. Manual - A PDF or other for the game

    11. Option to look for a girlfriend/ go clubbing/ more relationship options.

    12. Special Relationship Options - Christmas, Birthday etc.

    13. League Specific Transfer List - View Transfers in each league under competitions panel.



    If I think of more, I'll put them in. Otherwise, feel free to add more.

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    agrea with the stating stat thing, quite a few times i have been subbed on un the 89th minute and got a 4 rating.

    Also, woudl it be possible to look at the way the manager picks his team.

    I have been playing a lot today, started scoring (yay) got transfered to tamworth. in 9 subb ins i have scored 11 goals including 2 hattricks, and still havent played more than 30 minutes a game (just got injured for a month)


    career is so far 59 appearences, 59 sub ins and 18 goals (as said 11 of them in last 9 games)

    surely that cant be right?

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    have to say, this game is far TOOOO adictive.

    well done Siread (and any other programmers)

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    Contract Offers should be more precise - If I'm offered £250 a week, I should be able to demand £300, not be stuck with a demand of £500. The same with goal and assist bonusses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    Just a couple of suggestions:

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    If I think of more, I'll put them in. Otherwise, feel free to add more.
    I agree with pretty much all of them, and have already got point 10 on my wishlist I think a good thing to do would be to expand on what you mention in 1 and 2 by having an engine settings page with sliders etc. I think the problem here would be to get it to enforce changes without having to restart the game. Things like the ball physics, game duration/speed and rating/training settings could be open.

    I'm pretty sure point 9 is already in existence in the game though.
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    Point 9 is, but there is no transfer fee listed.

    New Point: When transferred, there should be a news item telling you how much you transferred for (Like NSS1 and possibly others), even if it was for free. I moved from Team Bath to Barrow, and the only news I got (in both personal and transfer) was 'Max Edwards has signed a 2 year contract with Barrow.

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    New Point Again:

    A review of players stats and inclusion into the national team/values as such - e.g. In 2008/2009 I've seen Daniel Welbeck(Man Utd. [Res]), Dexter Blackstock (QPR), Calum Woods (Unavailable from search) and Ross Davidson (Port Vale) all play for the England side. All are also now worth over £11m.

    This would need reviewing - both because of the blatent flaws in their choice, and in the fact that players worthy of a national team place would not remain at said lower league clubs, but move on.

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    Agreed on all your points so far. Also, heading training is agonisingly difficult: I'm finding it almost impossible to score headers from crosses that always fall very short when there are no defenders, let alone when there are three or four who cut it out every time.
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    More Points:

    The Conference League Cup (formerly the Setanta Shield) is not in the game.

    All the leagues finish too early, resulting in congested leagues/fixtures - players have to play with 70% or less energy.

    Champions League and Uefa Cup Finals shouldn't be played on the same day.

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    I have also had some issues with not getting a spot in the first team. I transferred from a Conference North team to a League 1 team after having scored over forty goals in half a season, only to be stuck on the bench for the rest of the season. Then i transferred to Bristol R in league 1, where i'm also on the bench. My stats are way better than all of the other players (shooting: 100, pace:85, dribbling: 82 etc.), my relationship with the manager is good (going from 90-100) and I often score goals when I get the chance. Also, the team is currently playing like ****, so I feel that that would give the manager some kind of incentive to mix things up a bit.

    *There seems to be something wrong with the players whose contracts end: Petter Andersson is currently (2011) a free agent after his contract with Hammarby (swedish Allsvenskan) ended. However, in his info he still get a weekly salary and is worth a huge amount of money (about 10 million gbp).

    *The Swedish national team is crazy. Only one player in the squad in NSS4 is in the squad IRL, the rest are players from Allsvenskan. I don't know if this is related to inaccuracies in the database, where a lot of Allsvenskan players are extremely overrated as far as stats are concerned (Petter Andersson, Charlie Davies, Robin Söder are just a few examples, there are lots more.)

    That said, I can't even begin to imagine how wonderful this game would be if the issues in my post and the previous ones are corrected; it is, even at present stage, highly addictive and quite wonderful.

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    I agree. I think that something is wrong with manager AI.

    http://www.newstarsoccer.com/newstar...ead.php?t=8834

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    Moonshine, I believe this should help a little bit.

    Replace those values in engine.ine (but backup firstly the original, in case you don't like those changes)

    (About your point 4.)

    cRatingMinute=-0.1
    cRatingPasses=1.6
    cRatingDefensiveHeaders=1.5
    cRatingShots=1.9
    cRatingGoals=12
    cRatingAssists=9
    cRatingSaves=1.9
    cRatingTackles=1.6
    cRatingYellows=-3
    cRatingReds=-9

    (About your point 5.)

    cFormationWidth=18.0
    cFormationHeight=9.9
    ' How deep team should defend
    cFormationDepth=1.4
    ' How much side players push up
    cWidePlayerPush=1.63
    ' How far the tactic should shift across or up/down field as the ball moves away from centre circle
    cFormationXShift=1.7
    cFormationYShift=2.12

    cDistanceToGoalImportance=0.53
    cDistanceToOpponentImportance=9.3
    cDistanceToBallImportance=6.5
    cWingImportance=1.62
    cDribbleSkillImportance=0.7

    (about your point 1.)

    cGameSpeed=22.6 (or more)

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    Yep, same's happened here as regards to team selection; I've scored pretty much all of Bristol City's goals in the first half of the season and we were top by 12 points, I got an England call-up, started on the bench, and now I'm on the bench for every Bristol City game too (and we've lost said massive lead).

    EDIT: Okay, I was asked to pick a second position (nay, forced to), and so I picked attacking midfielder. Now I'm forced to play all my games in the centre of midfield (though this is better than not playing at all I suppose ).
    Last edited by AfterDeath; 12-19-2008 at 11:04 PM.
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    The game just closes and returns to windows after the first screen. I'm using windows vista by the way and tried all versions of NSS 4.Can anything be done about this problem in the next patch?

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    - Run Windows Update
    - Install SP1 for Vista if you still haven't
    - Tell us your specs
    - Run the game in debug mode ( how to) and then post the last 15 lines of the log here


    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    Contract Offers should be more precise - If I'm offered £250 a week, I should be able to demand £300, not be stuck with a demand of £500. The same with goal and assist bonusses.
    I think we should be able to do like in NSS3 - select the value you want instead of being stuck with fixed values.

    [edit] More suggestions:

    - Make the ratings decimal (e.g. 6.4) - this would make the manager AI more accurate
    - Allow other players to call for the ball - would make the game more realistic
    - Allow us to slide tackle only when we are near the ball or the player that has the ball - would make accidents like tackling players without the ball not happen
    - Make the stadiums not be always full - all stadiums always being full is unrealistic, it should only happen rarely (like in very important matches)
    - If teams don't profit with the tickets sold for matches, make them profit from that[/edit]

    Though if any of those suggestions above are too hard to put in a patch, they should be left for NSS5.
    Last edited by Cookie Monster; 12-28-2008 at 01:07 PM. Reason: added stuff
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