How Chel$ki have ruined English football

**manyoolova** · 08-08-2005 08:10 PM

The point is that some russian billionaire who has made all his money in the oil business, apparently and also apparantly has links with the KGB. He has ruined the chance any poorer club in the EPL had of winning anything because he has bought any player worth having, reducing the ability of any other club - two, no, three examples - Damien Duff from Blackburn who are now relegation battlers, whereas they were in Europe two seasons ago - Didier Drogba from Marsielle they were also one of the challengers for the UEFA Cup for a couple of years but since Drogba went they haven't been heard of - Scott Parker the Charlton Athletic player that got them into a UEFA Cup spot who was then bought to be the deputy of the deputy of the guy that deputised to the bench-sitters.

And that is why Chel$ki have ruined English football in the long term and in the short term have given it an extremely bad name with the ultra-controversial tappings-up of Frank Arnesen and Ashley Cole.

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**JJU** · 08-08-2005 08:30 PM

hurrah... first signatory

I had to laugh, seeing Cole and SWP start on the bench. They'd walk into any other side, and whilst it could be argued that Chelsea simply want a strong squad, there is a limit to how far that goes.

Players like Cudicini are obviously quite content to sit and take the money whilst warming the bench, so they have to take some blame. But the fact is, the game was almost starting to stabilise a little financially before RA came along.

Now you have £21m passing hands for a player who has made 4 appearances for his country, who would have been better off staying at Man City or going elsewhere. Then there's the whole Cole / Arnesen affair. Add Kenyon and Mourinho's 'holier and mightier than thou' attitudes into the mix, and it's not hard to see why people detest Chelsea these days.

What's that I hear you say? 'It's just jealousy'?

**Dimitrije** · 08-08-2005 09:59 PM

this is very good poll =D>
I don't know maybe he is but he can do what's he want (with his money...)

DS · 08-09-2005 06:49 AM

Before Chelsea was bought by Roman world soccer was going down the drain because there were so many teams in unstaible financial positions. World soccer had no money in it. Chelsea have brought in $500,000,000 into world soccer.

**Soha** · 08-09-2005 07:08 AM

why they have ruined?? because they have a lot of money? it's good because they are buying only useful players but no as real madrid- all superstars which we can

DS · 08-09-2005 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Soha

why they have ruined?? because they have a lot of money? it's good because they are buying only useful players but no as real madrid- all superstars which we can

Exactly!!!

**Dimitrije** · 08-09-2005 10:01 AM

I'm for Chelsea (for years) and like the soha said why they ruined,because they have lot of money?!And he is write for the Real.
But and other clubs are good (Arsenal,Manchester,Liverpool...)and they aren't ruined englesh league???

**Wednesdaylad43** · 08-09-2005 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by manyoolova

The point is that some russian billionaire who has made all his money in the oil business, apparently and also apparantly has links with the KGB.

For a start, thats one thing I'll agree on. Did anyone watch the programme on the BBC about 6 months ago detailing how Roman made his billions? It was very interesting, and really opened my eyes. Basically, the man is corrupt. When Russia went down the pan and its goverment was in tatters (not that its politically great now), they, the government, sold off certain assets to private businesses, very much like the conservatives did i believe in this country. One of these assets was the large oil fields of Siberia and the surrounding area I think, worth about $1.5billion US. The government held an auction for them, consisting of business men and the like. It was a private auction, and there only seemed to be one business man who came, who happened to be very good friends with their Prime minister at the time, whos name escapes me. In short, Abramovic butters up the government, and in the "open auction" is the only bidder, securing the oil field for under $350million US. Not really fair. the corruption spreads further to offshore bases, Headquarters for companies in Cyprus that dont exist, but thats the start of it really.

Originally Posted by manyoolova

He has ruined the chance any poorer club in the EPL had of winning anything because he has bought any player worth having, reducing the ability of any other club

Tough ****. Thats business im afraid. You dont see Mcdonalds giving away ground to Burglar King and KFC out of the goodness of their heart. If they have it, spend it, and make yourself better. Plus, if chelsea hadnt bought these players that are worth having, they must have been good enough to go somewhere else. That somewhere else is Man United, or Arsenal.

Originally Posted by manyoolova

Damien Duff from Blackburn who are now relegation battlers, whereas they were in Europe two seasons ago - Didier Drogba from Marsielle they were also one of the challengers for the UEFA Cup for a couple of years but since Drogba went they haven't been heard of - Scott Parker the Charlton Athletic player that got them into a UEFA Cup spot who was then bought to be the deputy of the deputy of the guy that deputised to the bench-sitters.

Had Duff not gone to Chelski, he was of the calibre to only go to a handful of clubs, like man u, arsenal, or a top italian team. You can say that its ruining the game that he went to chelski because they had all the cash, but he wasnt about to go to newcastle, or bolton, or west brom was he, even if Chelski were skint. It wasnt a viable move for him due to the stature of the clubs he wanted to move to.

Drogba, big fish, small pond. Was going to move somewhere sooner rather than later. Same argument as duff. Had it not been chelski, would have been another major team, and instead of chelski winning it all now, would be someone else, just that they got there first. Same with parker,someone big was gonna get him eventually, and it was them.

Dont get me wrong, I can see what your saying and the argument your putting across. Chelsi have all the money and are, quite correctly, dominating football based on last season. They can afford the best players, and can pick and choose who they get. What I'm saying is that this isnt a valid argument. Say abramovic hadn't turned up, then it would be another team in Chelski's shoes now, picking up these players. Perhaps all the talent would have been spread around a little more, to say Italy, spain, top english teams and not just Chelski, but thats how it is. I just think that had it not been Chelski doing this, someone else would be. Would you have begrudged Man united had they done what chelsea had done?

Originally Posted by manyoolova

And that is why Chel$ki have ruined English football in the long term and in the short term have given it an extremely bad name with the ultra-controversial tappings-up of Frank Arnesen and Ashley Cole.

Are you kidding me?? Tapping up has been going on in football for years and years. Like when all the worlds footballling talent went to play in America. The teams in the MLS at the time didnt just think, right, lets get some players in, get the formal bids out and lets go. they all slid in and went, fancy a game for this big fat bag of cash? nudge nudge wink wink. I'm afraid if you dont think tapping up goes on every week in the game, your kidding yourself. Im just suprised when teams do actually get pulled up on it.

Originally Posted by manyoolova

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**FOOTIEMAD** · 08-09-2005 01:05 PM

This is stupid! Chelsea have not ruined English Football, they have the money so they spend it. The last time I checked there were no limitations to how much money or how many players you can sign in football, just cos' your team is getting beat by them it doesn't mean you need to start a petition, what difference will that make?

I could argue that McDonalds have ruined the fast food empire because they are better and make more money than Burger King and KFC or Dell have ruined the computer industry because they make better computers than Tiny, Packard Bell...etc.

**Dimitrije** · 08-09-2005 01:30 PM

Well,you said it!!!
I was stupid at my first post! :x

**Wednesdaylad43** · 08-09-2005 03:02 PM

Could be a good discussion this one I think

**manyoolova** · 08-09-2005 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Wednesdaylad43

Burglar King

lol

Originally Posted by Wednesdaylad43

Had Duff not gone to Chelski, he was of the calibre to only go to a handful of clubs, like man u, arsenal, or a top italian team. You can say that its ruining the game that he went to chelski because they had all the cash, but he wasnt about to go to newcastle, or bolton, or west brom was he, even if Chelski were skint. It wasnt a viable move for him due to the stature of the clubs he wanted to move to.

Drogba, big fish, small pond. Was going to move somewhere sooner rather than later. Same argument as duff. Had it not been chelski, would have been another major team, and instead of chelski winning it all now, would be someone else, just that they got there first. Same with parker,someone big was gonna get him eventually, and it was them.

The point is that at other clubs the players would have been played game after game, whereas at Chel$ki they have enough players to have a completely different squad every game.

Originally Posted by DS

Before Chelsea was bought by Roman world soccer was going down the drain because there were so many teams in unstaible financial positions. World soccer had no money in it. Chelsea have brought in $500,000,000 into world soccer.

But nicked all the half-way decent small-club players.

**Allan** · 08-09-2005 11:22 PM

hell no Chelsea brought money to world football and you cant blame blackburns bad time on duff getting out.

**manyoolova** · 08-10-2005 07:18 AM

Yes you can. And Parker from Charlton. And Cech from Rennes.

**FOOTIEMAD** · 08-10-2005 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by manyoolova

Yes you can. And Parker from Charlton. And Cech from Rennes.

Get over it. I could easily complain about Rangers ruining Scottish football, they have took about 6 players from Dundee in the last 4 years. Lets see how much they signed some players for...Zurab Khizanvilli(Dundee had to give Rangers £36,000 :shock: and this was the player who had trials at arsenal before hand and was rated 7m from his team a few years before), Gavin Rae - £250,000

, Claudio Caniggia - £1m( thats not too bad), Nacho Novo - £450,000(
:shock: ). I could easily go on and on but I can't be bothered. So for 3 internationals at the time and one soon to be international, you payed around 1.7million. So, I don't want to hear about a Rangers supporter complaining about Chelsea when Rangers are buying all the best players in scotland for peanuts.