NSGP Online Championship 8

[Alfonso]

Imagine Peter, Kos, Marek and Prz walking through the woods in a NSGPOC8 fan club presidented by Marek.
One moment Prz says: lets' beat up Peter! ... and Kos looks at him with a strange glow in his eye.
To that president Marek replies: guys, you might or might not like Peter but we need to do the right thing or else we're worse than animals.
OR
President Marek could also appeal to "that crazy thing of yours thats tearing the forum apart" logic and say:
Let's put it up to vote!

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LOLOLOLOLOL Thanks for making me laugh as soon as i wake up!

I was thinking where did that guy found those smiles?? And now i saw that they are pictures! It would be nice to have them in this forum,....

@Kos The big difference between our signatures is that mine is talking about me (even if its implicit the other drivers from the world), and your has my name on it. I feel honored to have such respect from you!

[Alex Reeves]

I think we could have saved a lot of time and effort if the stewards were named by presidential decree. I think voting for them wasn't wise, but that's my opinion.

I'm going to try again to see if racing with damage works, so I apologise to whoever's race I ruin on Saturday. Sign me up for Mercedes.

[peter-27]

Driver list updated!

Furthermore, after consideration, i have changed the U1 rules.

"For case 1U, if that recieves more "YES" votes than "NO" votes, it will get accecpted as a rule, thus making all other votes in section one void" is the new method and the only thing which has changed. You still may only have five votes in section one.

[peter-27]

I think we could have saved a lot of time and effort if the stewards were named by presidential decree.

True, but that would hardly be fair would it?

[Othello82]

Sign me up for Mercedes.

As for the contingency plan in case 1.30 isn't out i vote in making both races in the morning with 20 laps each, and if at the end of the season if there is time to remake them in 1.30, those results should prevail. If not the results from this weekend stand.

Cheers

[Alfonso]

As for the contingency plan in case 1.30 isn't out i vote in making both races in the morning with 20 laps each, and if at the end of the season if there is time to remake them in 1.30, those results should prevail. If not the results from this weekend stand.

Cheers

Yeah, im fine with that but you have to have one thing in mind. Bahrain is a very special track that in 20 laps takes almost the double of time then the others. What it was made on previous seasons where we used to have 2 races in a row, was to make Bahrain as one event.
Im fine in making both races but maybe its better just one and then wait for 1.30 for next week.

What the other guys say about it??

[peter-27]

Personally i think this:

As for the contingency plan in case 1.30 isn't out i vote in making both races in the morning with 20 laps each, and if at the end of the season if there is time to remake them in 1.30, those results should prevail. If not the results from this weekend stand.

Cheers

... is the best idea so far!

[Sida79]

True, but that would hardly be fair would it?

Actually it would be equally "fair" but faster

As for the contingency plan in case 1.30 isn't out i vote in making both races in the morning with 20 laps each, and if at the end of the season if there is time to remake them in 1.30, those results should prevail. If not the results from this weekend stand.

For what reason? I mean, it's already voted for races to approx 15 min so we should do 15 laps of Bahrain and 30 of Australia on 1.27 normally
1.30 is, as far as we're concerned, just a FIA announcement saying: that rule change will take place over the course of season #8 so be prepared.
Imagine if some had great results on the first weekend and then after replay losing them all? All hell would break loose
Besides, if FIA says "next race such and such is forbidden" the teams don't usually want a re-run of the championship up to that point

[peter-27]

Actually it would be equally "fair" but faster

It would be faster for sure but equally fair - i don't think so?

I mean, this way everyone gets to have their say which seems fairer than just me choosing

For what reason? I mean, it's already voted for races to approx 15 min so we should do 15 laps of Bahrain and 30 of Australia on 1.27 normally
1.30 is, as far as we're concerned, just a FIA announcement saying: that rule change will take place over the course of season #8 so be prepared.
Imagine if some had great results on the first weekend and then after replay losing them all? All hell would break loose
Besides, if FIA says "next race such and such is forbidden" the teams don't usually want a re-run of the championship up to that point

Actually you have a point there, and objections to this idea?

[przemator]

1 lap BHR = 1 minute
1 lap AUS = 30 sec

both races 20 laps:
BHR = 20 mins
AUS = 10 mins

BHR 15 laps, AUS 30 laps:
BHR = 15 mins
AUS = 15 mins

Reruning BHR and AUS at the end if there\'s time? What does it mean if there\'s time, there\'s always time . But seriously, if we race BHR and AUS this weekend, these results have to be official and final.

[Othello82]

Reruning BHR and AUS at the end if there\'s time? What does it mean if there\'s time, there\'s always time . But seriously, if we race BHR and AUS this weekend, these results have to be official and final.

If there is time then we should wait till 1.30 is out.

For me it starts this weekend with 1.27 15/30 or 20/20, but if we start with one set of rules designed for the 1.30, in the 1.27 it can create a sense of unfairness if the results aren't what each one expect.

But i'm ok with either option, just post a final decision Mr. President.

Cheers

[Alfonso]

I agree with this statement. I wouldnt mind to wait for 1.30 and then start officialy. Still we can race this weekend...we can call it the pre tests. Everyone practices a bit so there´s no Kos type excuses like: "Yeah, i dont make a single lap on NSGP since weeks thats why i was......."
For me if there´s no Update until Friday evening i would wait one more week for the new version...but as in everything lets hear what the others have to say. Democracy!

[Sida79]

It would be faster for sure but equally fair - i don't think so?

I mean, this way everyone gets to have their say which seems fairer than just me choosing?

Actually, it's almost exactly the same Neither one of the methods is based on merit so the
difference can only be in the outcome, not fairness. Actually, perhaps you chosing would be even better
as the result would be somewhat less expected as when it gets "averaged out".

This way it's like a lotto drum where some balls are much heavier in the start. Basically a rigged heavily
discriminating system devoid of any chance for equal opportunity

It's like playing shortest straw after you've already seen the straws

but if we start with one set of rules designed for the 1.30, in the 1.27 it can create a sense of unfairness if the results aren't what each one expect.

Can you give an example of this? I don't think any of 1.30 rules can be applied to 1.27 so it's a clear transition for everyone. We could wait too, IF we knew when to expect 1.30, otherwise we might wait forever

I agree with this statement. I wouldnt mind to wait for 1.30 and then start officialy. Still we can race this weekend...we can call it the pre tests. Everyone practices a bit so there´s no Kos type excuses like: "Yeah, i dont make a single lap on NSGP since weeks thats why i was......."

Why would I make such an excuse? I will just claim how I was the fastest man in my signature and when presented with evidence that says otherwise I will simply say "that's your opinion but I don't agree"

[Alex Reeves]

Let's also note that because we can't get replays, we also can't do any of the Race Control until 1.30 is out. So when my laggy ass ruins your race and when I'm wrecked because you saw me as 2-3 seconds away as you were beating the living daylights out of me on my screen, there's nothing that can be done about it.

I'd prefer to wait, but my vote on these things is insignificant.

[Sida79]

Your laggy ass is welcome to ruin my race Alex... it's just a game