NSGP manager Mod?

[captinfranko]

I don't know much (scratch that, anything) about coding and game design but I wonder whether it would be possible to make a mod for the game that would turn it in to a management sim. Its something that I would really like to see for Formula 1 as I believe their is a severe lack of decent f1 management sims about. I also think that because NSGP gives such as good platform as a racing game I can't help but wonder how easy it would be to translate this into a management sim.

[JJU]

Can't see it myself. Though amazingly I'm still to play it for myself, I gather the best aspect of NSGP is the fun it puts back into Formula One. From that aspect, I can't see how not being on the track and getting involved in mad corners could make for a great management title.

[bazik]

I don't know much (scratch that, anything) about coding and game design but I wonder whether it would be possible to make a mod for the game that would turn it in to a management sim. Its something that I would really like to see for Formula 1 as I believe their is a severe lack of decent f1 management sims about. I also think that because NSGP gives such as good platform as a racing game I can't help but wonder how easy it would be to translate this into a management sim.

As it is, its not possible for modders to do that, (i think), that had to come from above (siread).

I personally wouldn't play it like that but, Hey, i wouldn't mind the option being there.

[Nando]

I actually had a game in which you managed a the team and it was quite fun, but I still preferred the driving games.

(Keep in mind that I was only about say 10 or something and my knowledge of F1 is limited right now, just imagine then!)

[King Rob]

I don't know much (scratch that, anything) about coding and game design but I wonder whether it would be possible to make a mod for the game that would turn it in to a management sim. Its something that I would really like to see for Formula 1 as I believe their is a severe lack of decent f1 management sims about. I also think that because NSGP gives such as good platform as a racing game I can't help but wonder how easy it would be to translate this into a management sim.

I think the reason there are so few decent F1 management sims around is because its such a niche market and in all truth its probably very unlikely that we will see one by a major developer or for a major system because it probably would be a commercial bomb.

However have you tried

Grand Prix Manager 1 & 2 (2 has a good modding community)
Grand Prix World (although getting it to run under xp is like banging your head against a wall while someone hits you with a cricket bat on the other side)
F1 Manager Professional and Grand Prix Wizard (Dos Games)
F1 Manager (by EA released in 2000, flopped hard but very addictive and has modding community)

[bazik]

OMG i love SWOS :D

[Sida79]

OFF TOPIC: Which reminds me: I love MANAGING swos :D It's amazing how you can get the AI to create actions and therefore make the game look much more like football then it usually does when AI plays. I remember playing (and winning!) a swos management league as one of the best experiences of my gaming life.

[captinfranko]

Okay SWOS?! Im probably being really dumb, but I dont think ive heard of that before ::redface: , sounds like im missing out tho.

[King Rob]

OFF TOPIC: Which reminds me: I love MANAGING swos :D It's amazing how you can get the AI to create actions and therefore make the game look much more like football then it usually does when AI plays. I remember playing (and winning!) a swos management league as one of the best experiences of my gaming life.

I have to agree man SWOS has given me some great gaming memories. Winning the Premiership with my Millwall superteam as a manager or finally beating my dad as a player after he relentlessly battered me for months (seriously im talking running around the house dancing and laughing).

@captinfranko, Sensible World of Soccer (SWOS) is a PC\Amiga\atari\XboxLive game that is all kinds of awesome, good management side of things and great match engine and I may or may not be correct in this but perhaps the game (along with Kick Off?) slightly influenced the NSS3 match engine? (confirmation anyone?)

[MarcoGazpacho]

Staying off topic a little while longer:

SWOS = Sensible World of Soccer = zenith of Amiga gaming. ;)

The only game where I've persevered in making sure Chester City (who even back in 1996/97, the last season the game was updated in, were in the fourth tier of English football) won the quadruple. And then taking England to World Cup glory.

Which is why I love NSS4- it's like SWOS, but more personal, and with some really neat off-pitch events. I also deliberately play it from a SWOS-style perspective- high up, overhead, so I can see more of the pitch.

On topic:

An F1 team management game along the lines of NSGP could be fun, but it could take some time, and I'm not sure how satisfying it would be. Ever F1 management game has insisted you learn to set up the car for each track, which I don't want to do- as F1 team boss, that's not what I've been employed to do! Flavio Briatore doesn't alter the rear wing angle on Alonso's car before a race, for example!

The other point is signing sponsors, and that becomes tedious too. Which is really why there've been no great F1 management games- they're addictive, but not in a good way. So I'd prefer refinements were made to keep improving the driving experience in NSGP.

[King Rob]

Staying off topic a little while longer:

The other point is signing sponsors, and that becomes tedious too. Which is really why there've been no great F1 management games- they're addictive, but not in a good way. So I'd prefer refinements were made to keep improving the driving experience in NSGP.

That is kind of true with the Grand Prix Manager series but after a few seasons you should have enough cash stored up that if you miss a contracts its not an issue, with F1 Manager its pretty easy once you set up a system.

There is however a solution that merges the off topic\on topic paradox :lol:

A swos style hybrid F1 game with management elements and the NSGP race engine......of course this could just be a pipedream ;)

[captinfranko]

Yeah that sounds good I have checked SWOS out and I do kinda remember it from my childhood... truly awesome looking even still I think.

I had wondered whether the approach towards turning NGSP that way may be simply (I say that but I don't know how much work it really would be, i imagine quite a lot) making it possible to watch instead of drive the race and then flick between both cars in your team and alter their strategies and communicate with them as to their approach to the race, so if they were 3rd and needed to leapfrog somebody in the next stop you would tell them to push or if they were leading comfortably but with worn tyres you could issue a calm down or back off instruction.

As for the off track side of things I still don't think there would need to be much changed. The luxury items to buy for friends (or team members in this instance) may need a slight tweak but could still have the current effects on relationships and finance and I suppose you could add in the signing of sponsors to help tweak car performance throughout the season.

I just like the idea because there would finally be a f1 management game that I could play on my mac, and that would be mod-dable too, although perhaps that is just too much of a pipe dream lol.

[Sida79]

A management game is much more passive in its nature than racing the car yourself, so it would probably not survive without depth... it would take a huge effort I imagine.

[pertelli]

How bout when you finish your driving career you work your way up the managing ladder to head honcho?