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JJU
05-09-2007, 06:47 PM
PS. Maybe NSS4 could have a movie intro like FIFA or PES. It is kinda like a trailer but better. What do you think?

I for one would love to see a little movie intro of sorts. Begins with a toddler kicking a ball in the back garden. The camera follows the ball as it rolls into a bush, darkness envelops before the scene fades back in to said toddler, now 10/11, kicking a ball around with his mates in the street.

Some sort of transition from that scene to an organised match of some sorts, U18 level by appearance. Cue our 'star' to pull a few tricks and belt the ball towards the top corner. As the ball is on it's way, the camera pans around it, and by the time the goal is scored, the scene has transformed into a World Cup final or something like that.

Of course, you'd need some nice sound effects along the way, and a cheesey voice announcing "New Star Soccer... FOUR" at the end.

Nando
05-09-2007, 06:49 PM
I know this'll go OT but I'll split it later :P

I for one would love to see a little movie intro of sorts. Begins with a toddler kicking a ball in the back garden. The camera follows the ball as it rolls into a bush, darkness envelops before the scene fades back in to said toddler, now 10/11, kicking a ball around with his mates in the street.

Some sort of transition from that scene to an organised match of some sorts, U18 level by appearance. Cue our 'star' to pull a few tricks and belt the ball towards the top corner. As the ball is on it's way, the camera pans around it, and by the time the goal is scored, the scene has transformed into a World Cup final or something like that.

Nice.

Addition: ...And it could end either you making a goal in the last minute or lifting up the cup and then fades out and the NSS4 logo appears.

Do you like it?

proevofanatik
05-09-2007, 10:24 PM
I know this'll go OT but I'll split it later :P

I for one would love to see a little movie intro of sorts. Begins with a toddler kicking a ball in the back garden. The camera follows the ball as it rolls into a bush, darkness envelops before the scene fades back in to said toddler, now 10/11, kicking a ball around with his mates in the street.

Some sort of transition from that scene to an organised match of some sorts, U18 level by appearance. Cue our 'star' to pull a few tricks and belt the ball towards the top corner. As the ball is on it's way, the camera pans around it, and by the time the goal is scored, the scene has transformed into a World Cup final or something like that.

Of course, you'd need some nice sound effects along the way, and a cheesey voice announcing "New Star Soccer... FOUR" at the end.


how about this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAyb9cLxdng

Nando
05-09-2007, 10:26 PM
how about this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAyb9cLxdng

Wicked...

I just thought of something, instead of ending the movie in the world cup you could end it as a manager.

JJU
05-09-2007, 10:26 PM
hehe.. kinda cuts out all the middle stuff don't it!

proevofanatik
05-09-2007, 10:28 PM
also i dont know if this has been suggested, but why dont we put a school football team mode. where you start playing as a 7 year old and work your way up the years. doing some school work too to keep your players intellegence levels up. when i say school work i mean like maths or something.

proevofanatik
05-09-2007, 10:31 PM
lol were supposed to be talking about 3d stadiums in this thread. i hope si doesnt mind.

Nando
05-09-2007, 10:31 PM
also i dont know if this has been suggested, but why dont we put a school football team mode. where you start playing as a 7 year old and work your way up the years. doing some school work too to keep your players intellegence levels up. when i say school work i mean like maths or something.

Starting from like 7 would be nice but getting all of the maths tests done correctly or something like that is as Nick says 'it is to Sims' (not his exact words).

As for the movie, well it could end with a perspective of you, as the manager making a serious face or smiling.

EDIT:

lol were supposed to be talking about 3d stadiums in this thread. i hope si doesnt mind.

JJU separated the topic into too. Stadiums in one, intro in another.

siread
05-09-2007, 11:01 PM
So do we have any budding film students? :)

statto
05-09-2007, 11:25 PM
We could have a contest :) Winner gets a free game.

Nando
05-10-2007, 10:06 AM
We could have a contest :) Winner gets a free game.

But will the clips be real life or will they be NSS4 3d?

xtrmntr
05-10-2007, 10:08 AM
NSS4 3D of course. It is a game after all!:lol: not real new star soccer ;)

Nando
05-10-2007, 10:10 AM
NSS4 3D of course. It is a game after all!:lol: not real new star soccer ;)
Then Si would have to make a special beta with toddlers and all.

Ladrinski
05-10-2007, 10:51 AM
.. and what about this:
1. real life film as jju suggested i.e. 7 yr kid kicking the ball into the bush and then up to the WC or CL holding trophy ceremony
2. the last image fades (without the appearance of nss4)
3. one man (siread) sitting in front of a desk writing something (seen from behind)
4. the same man switch a computer
5. images of nss1 appears and then nss2 and then nss3
6. then a big flash or something and nss4 gets into life with a sort of match preview (ea sports fifa style)
7. the big logo nss4 stays on the screen and the voice says something "nss4 the time is .... now!"
:clap:
i should give up smoking funny bits

Nando
05-10-2007, 11:12 AM
.. and what about this:
1. real life film as jju suggested i.e. 7 yr kid kicking the ball into the bush and then up to the WC or CL holding trophy ceremony
2. the last image fades (without the appearance of nss4)
3. one man (siread) sitting in front of a desk writing something (seen from behind)
4. the same man switch a computer
5. images of nss1 appears and then nss2 and then nss3
6. then a big flash or something and nss4 gets into life with a sort of match preview (ea sports fifa style)
7. the big logo nss4 stays on the screen and the voice says something "nss4 the time is .... now!"
:clap:
i should give up smoking funny bits

It is quite nice. The movie competition is going to be great!

Nando
05-11-2007, 06:10 PM
As I think of it... NSS4 could show some demos after not having any movement in the main menu. (Like PES or FIFA 'Press the start button' screen that shows demos of teams playing.) They could feature famous soccer names as Simon Read, Nick Greg, Statto (Don't know your name) ect...

What do you think?

statto
05-11-2007, 06:34 PM
what do you know - it's john :0

JJU
05-11-2007, 06:35 PM
Yeah, so don't call me John, call him John!

Nando
05-11-2007, 06:39 PM
I had your name on my mind but I just couldn't say it...

Yeah, so don't call me John, call him John!

Alright, Nick.

Ps. Ever thought of changing your name to 'Saint Nick':P? Joking... don't change the mos famous name in the forums...

Soha
05-12-2007, 06:05 AM
i have idea on start of this intro :D maybe all editors and ppl who are helping in game will send their photo ;]

on start there can be big logo of NSG, which will turn back and there will appear photos- in center- Simon's (bigger) and around him other ,,helpers". next photos will turn into logos of leagues which those ppl did (mine photo->polish, Nando's->portuguese logo, etc) next those logos will split up and there will appear photo of city (from sattelite for example), next maybe street without ppl and any ,,move" on it (here we have sound of wind, or something what will show that nothing happens- calm and quiet), next image of stadium (view from street- still calm :P), and next zoom on supporters (here real ,,roar" from mfootball stadiums what is normal for matches ;]). here we can turn intro to show some game :P so next some situations from game maybe with commentators in some languages (for example there could be shown premiership match Arsenal v Chelsea with Nick as commentator- only 1-2 sentences to 1 situation. something like this was in total club manager some years ago). and on end screen will appear logo of NSS4. hope that you understood

p.s. for ,,commentators" to intro could be thread where ppl would be able to say that they can be commentators for 1 situation from intro ;)

Paul Frank Citadel
05-13-2007, 05:44 PM
will this intro have a sound track??
if will what kind Mp3 or Midi??
well... i'm a guitar player, if someone want rock and roll sounds, but i'm don't have drums and an bass to do something really nice, but if you need a midi i can do...

CTFC
05-13-2007, 07:07 PM
i have idea on start of this intro :D maybe all editors and ppl who are helping in game will send their photo ;]

on start there can be big logo of NSG, which will turn back and there will appear photos- in center- Simon's (bigger) and around him other ,,helpers". next photos will turn into logos of leagues which those ppl did (mine photo->polish, Nando's->portuguese logo, etc) next those logos will split up and there will appear photo of city (from sattelite for example), next maybe street without ppl and any ,,move" on it (here we have sound of wind, or something what will show that nothing happens- calm and quiet), next image of stadium (view from street- still calm :P), and next zoom on supporters (here real ,,roar" from mfootball stadiums what is normal for matches ;]). here we can turn intro to show some game :P so next some situations from game maybe with commentators in some languages (for example there could be shown premiership match Arsenal v Chelsea with Nick as commentator- only 1-2 sentences to 1 situation. something like this was in total club manager some years ago). and on end screen will appear logo of NSS4. hope that you understood

p.s. for ,,commentators" to intro could be thread where ppl would be able to say that they can be commentators for 1 situation from intro ;)

I'm sure you're a good looking kid, but I don't really think having photos of real life "helpers" would be appropriate.

Nando
05-13-2007, 07:10 PM
I'm sure you're a good looking kid, but I don't really think having photos of real life "helpers" would be appropriate.

:P... I actually agree. Frankly, when I play a game I don't care who made as long it is good so I think some in game shots would be nice, kinda like JJU said.

CTFC
05-13-2007, 08:18 PM
They don't even really need to be in-game. For instance, LMA graphics for the intro are phenomenal, whereas the in-game graphics aren't.

A few of those 3D stadium views. A 3D player and a few goals would be fine.

Nando
05-13-2007, 09:07 PM
They don't even really need to be in-game. For instance, LMA graphics for the intro are phenomenal, whereas the in-game graphics aren't.

A few of those 3D stadium views. A 3D player and a few goals would be fine.

I don't agree with just having a bunch of goals, I really like JJu's idea, it is gold.

CTFC
05-13-2007, 09:39 PM
Yeah, that is clearly the best idea. I was thinking if it was too hard to make, though.

ziNde
05-14-2007, 04:45 PM
I think the best is making a movie with some of the best players. Everyone that can make movies could try to make one and then we could decide witch one is better. I think i can make one... sony vegas and some other programs help making a movie fast.

For me the intro should be like. Heart beat sound at the begining and videos of maradona or other great players from last century playing when they were young. Then a nice music, some written stuff like "Do you have what it takes..." "To become a legend" or whatever, with some fade to black effects. Then some of the best goals from the best players ever. I think this would be enough. What do you think?

Nando
05-14-2007, 07:16 PM
Yeah, that is clearly the best idea. I was thinking if it was too hard to make, though.

If Si makes the first beta player changeable (didn't know that that was a word... :P) all you need to find is player models from different ages.

And voilą!!!

xtrmntr
05-15-2007, 07:31 AM
If Si makes the first beta player changeable (didn't know that that was a word... :P) all you need to find is player models from different ages.

And voilą!!!

:search: That could help.

JJU
05-15-2007, 03:23 PM
:search: That could help.
You're not making a lot of sense there.. please try and keep the posts lucid and on-topic.

Nando
05-15-2007, 06:07 PM
Okay.............. What were you referring to when you posted that?

You're not making a lot of sense there.. please try and keep the posts lucid and on-topic.

xtrmntr
05-16-2007, 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nando View Post
If Si makes the first beta player changeable (didn't know that that was a word... ) all you need to find is player models from different ages.

And voilą!!!

:search: That could help.

You're not making a lot of sense there.. please try and keep the posts lucid and on-topic.

I meant that the player models can be searhcable! What was you thinking JJU?;)

Nando
05-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nando View Post
If Si makes the first beta player changeable (didn't know that that was a word... ) all you need to find is player models from different ages.

And voilą!!!





I meant that the player models can be searhcable! What was you thinking JJU?;)

Oh... Okay.

What do you think Si?

siread
05-18-2007, 10:30 AM
I don't think BlitzMax has a cross platform movie player (pc, mac, linux) so a "film" intro isn't an option unless I find one in the next few months.

Nando
05-18-2007, 06:26 PM
I don't think BlitzMax has a cross platform movie player (pc, mac, linux) so a "film" intro isn't an option unless I find one in the next few months.

I'm sorry but since my engliahs isn't the best there is, did you meant that you don't have a program to record it or did you meant that you can't record a file that plays on Windows, Linux and Macintosh?

Kaldow
05-18-2007, 07:11 PM
He meant that he has yet to find a BlitzMax (the game programming language) movie player that runs in PC, Mac, Linux, etc. So, he can't make the intro because it won't work on all the Operating Systems and NSS4 is going to be for multiple OS

Nando
05-18-2007, 07:19 PM
He meant that he has yet to find a BlitzMax (the game programming language) movie player that runs in PC, Mac, Linux, etc. So, he can't make the intro because it won't work on all the Operating Systems and NSS4 is going to be for multiple OS

Oh... But if you find it and need any help searching just give me some details and I will start searching.

dadamafia
05-20-2007, 01:42 AM
I have an idea which may be simple to do. Think Maradona/Messi. :)

The scene would start with the NSS3 look where it would fade in with a young player (as yourself starting out) receiving receiving the ball just outside his box against the run of play catching the opposing team off guard (maybe a misplayed corner or just a simple bad pass). He would skin maybe 2 or 3 players in a tight area before running up to midfield with a little room to maneuver. A defender would come barging at him at which time he would skin him making the injury sign pop up then the game freezes. Maybe some sort of slowmotion transformation would take place where the game style would switch to the new NSS4 look then the players would proceed to bust a couple more moves then round the keeper to score a magical goal which causes the crowd to erupt in its excitement. He would then run to the corner flag with his teammates trailing him and it would zoom in real close to see him saluting the scowd then it freezes into a newspaper snapshot with the headline "A New Star has arrived!!!" and then the NSS4 logo emphatically makes its entrance (popping up/dropping in).

You could also do 1 half of the vid in the argie then move on to the Barca. Another option would be to recreate the Messi goal in NSS4 with a shadow of NSS3 Maradona over him (referencing the old and the new).

Any ways thats what I thought of. It references a play which actually occured while still previewing the new gameplay and such to be introduced. Hell if I can make that though.

Nando
05-20-2007, 02:55 PM
I have an idea which may be simple to do. Think Maradona/Messi. :)

The scene would start with the NSS3 look where it would fade in with a young player (as yourself starting out) receiving receiving the ball just outside his box against the run of play catching the opposing team off guard (maybe a misplayed corner or just a simple bad pass). He would skin maybe 2 or 3 players in a tight area before running up to midfield with a little room to maneuver. A defender would come barging at him at which time he would skin him making the injury sign pop up then the game freezes. Maybe some sort of slowmotion transformation would take place where the game style would switch to the new NSS4 look then the players would proceed to bust a couple more moves then round the keeper to score a magical goal which causes the crowd to erupt in its excitement. He would then run to the corner flag with his teammates trailing him and it would zoom in real close to see him saluting the scowd then it freezes into a newspaper snapshot with the headline "A New Star has arrived!!!" and then the NSS4 logo emphatically makes its entrance (popping up/dropping in).

You could also do 1 half of the vid in the argie then move on to the Barca. Another option would be to recreate the Messi goal in NSS4 with a shadow of NSS3 Maradona over him (referencing the old and the new).

Any ways thats what I thought of. It references a play which actually occured while still previewing the new gameplay and such to be introduced. Hell if I can make that though.

Nice idea... These are all good ideas, will just have to see if Si can find a way to add it to BlitzMax (which I am sure it will be hard).

If it can't be added it could always become the NSS4 trailer.

joerixon
06-07-2007, 12:30 AM
Si, BlitzMax!?! Why ever?! Anyway.. I'm told in good faith the MPlayer mod can play video on Windows and Mac. Maybe the code can be fixed for Linux too? The code is in the Blitz Research forum apparently.

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 04:54 PM
If you want an existing song for intro,the best is Fort Minor - Remember the name.

Nando
06-07-2007, 04:58 PM
If you want an existing song for intro,the best is Fort Minor - Remember the name.

Perfect song, however I don't thing NSG has the rights to use it.

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Perfect song, however I don't thing NSG has the rights to use it.
Well,I don't know for that,but I think it's better a new nice song than existing song. :) I gave just an example if you want existing. ;)

Nando
06-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Well,I don't know for that,but I think it's better a new nice song than existing song. :) I gave just an example if you want existing. ;)

Nowadays anyone can make a song from computer programs (I have never tried it) and there for, maybe a new song, carefully made to fit every scene of the trailer would be good :D

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 05:09 PM
Maybe I can help... I have some good programs,and still,I'm going to music school.:)

Nando
06-07-2007, 05:13 PM
Maybe I can help... I have some good programs,and still,I'm going to music school.:)

You have a great music here from what I can tell, if there is a possibility of a trailer, it would be great to see if you can make a nice song.;)

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Here is song for those who don't know for Fort Minor - Remember the name. ;)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w8y9i6
Remember,that this song isn't on NSG server,it has taken from other site,so NSG is not responsible for content on other site.

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 05:17 PM
You have a great music here from what I can tell, if there is a possibility of a trailer, it would be great to see if you can make a nice song.;)
First,we need to see what Si is going to tell on trailer. :)

Nando
06-07-2007, 05:21 PM
First,we need to see what Si is going to tell on trailer. :)

NSS4's trailer is going to be amazing and, if Si wants... maybe a special bonus should be featured in NSS4, like a movie that shows how NSG has evolved since WCM to NSS4:)

Dimitrije
06-07-2007, 05:22 PM
That would be VERY cool! :)