Sensational Beta 1 available

[siread]

Well, here we are with a new game from the New Star stable. Essentially this is the same game engine as New Star Soccer 3, but you will be able to control the whole team, choose the tactics, players etc. Currently there are single match (1 or 2 player) and league options, but i intend to include a World Cup mode in time for this summer's event.

Download the beta here:
http://download.newstargames.com/SensationalSoccer.zip

Extract the contents of the zip file and run the Sensational Soccer exe. This game should expire on the 10th of May, so on that day you will need to either delete the folder or get a new version. :)

[Nando]

SS is here! I am going to try it right now!:D

[AfterDeath]

Fantastic Si! I'll give it a go!

[Nando]

I found something strange... (It maybe because of the portuguese tranlation) but when I started the match it said to press the "call for the ball" button... But there is no "call for the ball" there is "change player"

[Haluk]

Hmmm, Turkish became interesting with all those squares. What C++ compiler are you using, if you don't mind my asking?

[statto]

Perhaps you could have a quick match list of teams, so instead of playing Zemun vs San Martin (SJ) you can play Inter v AC Milan.

Add nationalities of players to the selection screen, please.

Have a stadium option.

I had trouble moving Brad Friedel into the goalkeeper position, he was listed 11th with Blackburn. Perhaps instead or in addition to the switch players, you could use the boxes as well to switch players so I don't have to move my mouse all the way down and then back up. Managing my lineup felt kind of awkward, perhaps an 'assistant manager' option?

Do leagues feature promotion/relegation if you play long enough?

Custom Cup Tournaments ;)

No gameplay bugs so far, in fact I scored a cracker of a goal.

[JJU]

Obviously the squads need some work, Arsenal have no strikers :lol:

No obvious bugs yet, nice work :)

[statto]

If the length of the team is too long to fit into the box (IE Mexico), possibly display their short name instead.

All the players have goalkeeper as their position.

Can't substitute players. Can't see players' match rating; can't see player's fitness, is this intentional?

Custom tactic - had trouble moving players 7 and 8 when i moved them near each other.

All in all a good game, not as deep as NSS3 at all yet and doesn't do as much for me as NSS3 does, but I'm not worried about it :)

A couple more great goals as well :) the gameplay in the game is quite solid.

[siread]

Damn, I thought I sorted the squads. Statto, feel free to adapt your editor to pick 22 players. :P

The leagues do feature promotion/relegation.

The quick match option works on all the League/Division selection screens. For instance, if you click Quick Match on the English Divisions screen it will pick 2 English clubs. If you go all the way to the Premiership it will choose 2 premiership teams. :)

Thanks for the comments so far. :)

[statto]

I'll see what I can do. I was going to add the export feature but you released SS so I haven't started yet.

Beautiful, is it the general three up/three down? You should add the color codes. Nice about the quick match.

[statto]

Wait - not all players have goalkeeper at their position, but most of the ones I have seen do (Mexican league, Icelandic league)...

[JJU]

Player appearances seem to be random? In my first game for Milan Shevchenko was white and dark haired. He now appears to be stocky and dark skinned, like some other players who shouldn't be.

Also, when changing language, can the boxes not be made to change size to adapt to the text length?

Same player name issue as NSS3, 'nicknames' not being displayed.

[siread]

Hmmm, Turkish became interesting with all those squares. What C++ compiler are you using, if you don't mind my asking?

It's programmed in BlitzPlus. No C++ at all.

[siread]

Wait - not all players have goalkeeper at their position, but most of the ones I have seen do (Mexican league, Icelandic league)...

Statto, could you have a scan through your League save file. Does it have any blank spaces?

[siread]

Can't substitute players. Can't see players' match rating; can't see player's fitness, is this intentional?

You should be able to sub players. Is the ball out of play?

Match ratings and fitness don't exist at the moment.

[Kaldow]

Player appearances seem to be random? In my first game for Milan Shevchenko was white and dark haired. He now appears to be stocky and dark skinned, like some other players who shouldn't be.

Also, when changing language, can the boxes not be made to change size to adapt to the text length?

Same player name issue as NSS3, 'nicknames' not being displayed.

I also experienced the random appearances thing. I was playing with barcelona, at first I think the appearances were ok, but at the 2nd match or 3rd I noticed that eto'o had orange hair and almost all the other players were dark skinned. The next match the appearances random changed and I got eto'o with gray hair and ronaldinho stocky just to mention some players because I dont think anyone had his real appearance. (This happened when playing spanish league, I edited tactics and moved some players around in the formation, and this only happened to my players as the rivals were looking normal -I think-)

[statto]

No blank spaces in the league file as I'm not playing in a league. I'll look again.

Custom stadiums are now getting fussy and refuse to load except in league situations. Also, how are generic stadiums loaded in the MLS and other leagues? The MLS generic team all had small stadiums. I also had the hair-color change problem.

Substitutions now work. I might have been a tad too early the first time.

[siread]

I'll check out the appearance thing. If a stadium is missing it should base the size on the division number. Top divisions have Generic Large, lower divisions have Generic small etc

[statto]

I'll check out the appearance thing. If a stadium is missing it should base the size on the division number. Top divisions have Generic Large, lower divisions have Generic small etc

The game seems too happy to jump to Generic Tiny for every league I tried, might want to check the formula. I intended it for like the Icelandic/Faeroe/Conference type leagues but it works with USA, Russia, Mexico, Dutch lower divisions...

[tomer the king]

thanks si!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[madrilene59]

this game is quite good.

i like it.
it's a bit difficult but it's quite funny

[OckHAM]

Finally :D Some quick questions before I'm able to play it with anxiety.

No custom sprites support?
Does exist a list of the features do you want to implement?
No career mode at all in definitive version?
Does exist any multiplayer option (hot-seat, lan, tcp/ip etc.)?

Thanks for the answers.

[siread]

Custom sprites should still work in the same way.
Features yet to be included are a World Cup mode and possibly transfers in the league mode.
No career mode.
I will be looking at online-multiplayer after the summer. :)

[OckHAM]

Ok, played my first match with excellent sensations :D
I'll prepare some CONMEBOL additions for the db with leagues that have not been realized (Colombia, Bolivia, Venezuela etc.).

No custom tournaments creation neither?

[siread]

No custom tournaments for now, sorry.

[OckHAM]

Uhm. The stadiums are already supported? I'm not able to see any stadium in game, is selected always the default stadium (yes, I've copied the stadiums from the nss3 directory).

[siread]

Yes, i'm working on that.

[OckHAM]

I noticed that the stadiums work in league, sorry. Anyway I'm sure that implementing the stadium on friendly is a good idea too :)

As I keep playing I have to say that SS is indeed the game that all the old skool fans were awaiting for: is as good as Sensible Soccer, being a beta so with a good improvement to be awaited soon; Sensible Soccer knew its evolution and the best soccer game with SWOS, so I hope this is the first step for the game I think we're all waiting for, the Sensational World of Soccer ;)

[siread]

Heheh. I like it. :)

[statto]

BTW for those try the new independent editor, it has an export feature where it takes the top 22 players from each team and a 'Sensational Mode' which limits the roster sizes to 22.

No custom tournaments? Ah man, don't worry about it now but it would be sweet in future versions.

[Nando]

There is one thing I noticed that gave me a hard time...

It changed to the person nearer to the ball but I had a match and the ball was bettwen 2 guys and they just keeped changing from player to player...


MAybe and turn on auto player change and a turn off auto player change is a good idea...;)

[AfterDeath]

I enjoyed it. It would've been better if I'd have had Rooney and Van Nistelrooy as my strikers, but yeah, I liked it. :D

(I can't view the whole squad, only midfielders, so a scroll bar would be appreciated)

But yeah, it's cool. In the future there could be a keeper charge button and perhaps players making intelligent runs behind the defence? Also, do players run towards the ball? If not, that'd help smooth defence over.

EDIT: Two new ideas: It'd be nice if we could have a simple "pass" button. I find it hard to play a passing game as I lose time when holding down pass, so perhaps we could have "S" as auto-pass, which finds the nearest player, and keep the same control for the current pass, which could be through ball.

Also, I'd like the dribbling ability of defenders to go up. I can't run with them at all, which is pretty unrealistic for Premiership defenders.

[statto]

Only the first 22 players from each team are in the game. Rooney and Ruud are not one of the first 22 in the Man U data file. The independent player editor allows you to export NSS3 files as SS files with the best 22 players (top 2 gks, 8 dfs/mfs, 4fwds) which you can get in the scout forum :)

[AfterDeath]

Alright, but hopefully it'll be fixed in a new version.

[OckHAM]

It's normal that I can't find the option to save the league? It's for the beta status or I just don't find the button? :D

[statto]

File -> Save; To export to Sensational format, File -> Export -> Sensational Soccer. :)

[OckHAM]

No, I mean in Sensational Soccer when I start a League I can't see the option to save it :D I'm not sooo newbie about editing stuff :D :D

[statto]

Haha, sorry, it saves on exit. League Load, click league, you still have to select a league but your league is loaded (a bug).

[siread]

I'll be including multiple save files in the final version.

[statto]

Si, check out the generated players on teams in Andorra, Mexico, etc; they're all goalkeepers.

[Ace]

Nice one Si! :clap:
Why is the radar somtimes turning dark green?
...too bad it's not on Norwegian... :(

[statto]

You can translate it into norwegian if you wish. Just copy the English file and change to Norwegian, be careful of some characters though.

[Moonrag]

I just played a game, it took a little while to get used to controlling the whole team but its great, did a few nice passing moves and scored a few good goals.

One minor bug i found which will probably be fixed in the final version anyway, i went to start a league... clicked on England blah blah and chose Man Utd, it brought up the Austrian league?? Then i tried to play the A-League (Aussie) and it had the French??

[JJU]

I think it said earlier it was added to avoid clashing with the crowd.

However, the radar does overlap the player name bar when playing in 1024x768 mode.


Why is the radar somtimes turning dark green?

[siread]

New beta:
http://www.newstarsoccer.com/newstarforum/showthread.php?p=24857#post24857