NSGP2 - Let the editing begin!

[siread]

Hi chaps. Here is the 3D car model that I will be using in NSGP2. The car itself is very basic but I think it is sufficient especially as the game will primarily use an elevated camera angle.

- If you extract the zip and run the exe you can see the car with the default texture map.

- Use the cursor keys to rotate and drive the car.

- Keys - and = zoom the camera in and out.

- Keys 1-9 allow you to load different car textures. The default textures are VERY basic and simply change the colour of the car.

- Key 0 resets the car with the texture map guide. This is CarTex_0a.png in the folder and should be used to determine which part of the car the different areas of the texture map is applied to. (Green = front and rear wings, Blue = side panels etc.)

So feel free to create your own car textures using CarTex_0a as a guide. Don't feel that you need to stick to basic colours, you can use as much detail as you like. I look forward to seeing your efforts and if they are good enough I might like to use them in the game (although official car colours/sponsor decals will not be permitted.)

[captinfranko]

any chance of a mac version of this (pretty) please Si?:(

[siread]

Sure, I'll sort it tomorrow. :)

[captinfranko]

awesomage...thank yous :D:D:D:D:dance:

[robbyd]

*jumps in* STAND WELL BACK, I'LL TAKE CARE OF THIS!

[siread]

BTW, if you create 2 textures for each team you can have the correct helmet colours for both drivers. :)

[Paranhos]

Awesome Si! Will we be able to change the meshes as well? The shapes?

[King Rob]

This feels much easier than making sprites for NSGP1 :)

[felipe1337]

textures should be easy enough for anyone with the will to do it, so modding keeps rather easy
@Paranhos, only if we're given a separate model file, if it is put into a package, or some file type wich can't be edited, it might not be possible.

[robbyd]

A VERY quick Lotus render, minus sponsors for the vanilla version. What you think?

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8128/cartex7a.png

[siread]

Yeah, looking nice. :)

I'm hoping someone can come up with some really nice wheels. The top tyre image is the outer side of the wheel, the lower tyre image is the inside of the wheel.

[helmut sen.]

Mhhm, the wheels don´t roll... ;)

http://imgbox.de/users/public/images/c2857i138.png

[King Rob]

My quick and humble attempt at a homage to Jaguar (without logos)

Not being artistically gifted im happy with that :lol:

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8090/jagscreen.th.png (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/jagscreen.png/)http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/88/jagtex.th.png (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/jagtex.png/)

[robbyd]

MUCH love for my fellow BRG enthusiast :P

[King Rob]

MUCH love for my fellow BRG enthusiast :P

:lol: doesn't need to be a shade darker haha?

I figured that your first creation would have a lotusy feel to it :P

[siread]

Mhhm, the wheels don´t roll... ;)

I don't think it will be noticeable from the ingame camera. It should never get that close, but we'll see.

Of course, the default driver/cockpit needs some work too. :)

[felipe1337]

What you mean with Some nice wheels Si?, well, i have done something, but just for fun, you can only see when zoomed in
EDIT:
Si, how can i edit the top part of the wheel?

[siread]

Oh, the top part of the wheels can't be changed yet. I'll add that to the texture soon.

[siread]

I've updated the zip in the first thread. CarTex_0a now has an area for the tyre surface. :)

It also includes the mac version. Run the .app.

[captinfranko]

aww the mac version is awesome thanks Si Im gonna have a play later. Will try the mercedes I think.

Could I suggest that for people completely new at 3d editing it might be a good idea to supply a copy of the model with a text layer telling people how it is mapped onto the car. It seems pretty obvious after a few minutes but may help avoid confusion for first timers.

[captinfranko]

Okay I have had a quick go at the mercedes...nothing special but just a quick try.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rsQE5PhzGyw/S4QpcPnKz4I/AAAAAAAAAPk/kqW3qx63WCI/s1600/Picture%2B1.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rsQE5PhzGyw/S4QpchzL3aI/AAAAAAAAAPs/cfzQuv3vGr0/s1600/Picture%2B2.png

[siread]

Nice work chaps. Just to show you what is possible here is a Ferrari that Pawel has done. (He will mainly be working on some models for the track.)
http://download.newstargames.com/misc/ferrari.jpg

[King Rob]

Just thought I'd post something I did tonight but first some quick points:

1. I forgot like a moron that Si had uploaded a new version of the texture and thus could not edit the wheel surface :doh:
2. Didn't change helmets or wheels but will change them at a later date...maybe.
3. Could someone tell me what the green area above the front wing is for?

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9841/bluecar.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/bluecar.jpg/)http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9113/bluecar1.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/i/bluecar1.jpg/)http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7016/bluecar2.th.png (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/bluecar2.png/)

[felipe1337]

Looks good, Si, will there be some animation for pit crews when you drive into the pits?(like a guy telling you where to stop, so you won't do like alguesuari)

[siread]

I'm afraid not. That sort of thing will slow down development too much so maybe next year. :)

[bazik]

OMG, WHY do i now have a job? eheh just kidding, but i currently have no time for the editing i did for nsgp1.. maybe when the seasons starts... oh well, nice work

[felipe1337]

Si, you already got DB done?or at least some of it

[siread]

No not yet. I'm still working on the game engine.

[Paranhos]

Si, you already got DB done?or at least some of it

No not yet. I'm still working on the game engine.

If you want a hand with the db Si, just ask. :)

[robbyd]

I've just had a thought about a bit of a problem with 3d. What about circuits like monaco? how on earth are going to see the car from an angle when buildings, trees and bridges are in the way?

[Cookie Monster]

In NSS2010 you face the same problem when playing with the Player cam because of the stadiums but the stadiums are transparent so you can see everything.

[felipe1337]

Just make buildings invisible when car passes near them

[Kirby]

Made the Virgin Racing VR01 race car.

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-27at100944PM-1.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-27at100846PM-1.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-27at100826PM-1.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/CarTex_9a.png

[robbyd]

Very nice work! Could I use the wheels for my lotus texture? It should be finished within the next few days.

[King Rob]

Looks amazing mate :)

[Kirby]

Yeah Sure, Take what you want from it


I just noticed that i placed the virgin logo on the wrong red bit for the rear wing! !@#$%^&* lol

Not bad for a first attempt.. took for ever to understand where to paint the lines and stuff. Feel Free to use it as a guide starting off.

Might make a better one if i get the time

[Kirby]

Heres Mark Webbers Machine. Not an exciting livery as the Virgin.

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-28at61221AM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-28at61211AM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-02-28at61137AM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/CarTex_2a.png

[Sida79]

omg love these! :clap:

[LBStrange]

Awesome work bro!

[siread]

Yes, very nice. :)

[siread]

Pawel has updated the car model so it now has wing mirrors and stuff. Download it from the first post in this thread.

Your old textures will still work, but if you will need to update a few areas.

[walczu]

First of all i want to say hello everybody, because its my first post here. Here you have Renault. Waiting for comments. :)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4559/renault.png

[captinfranko]

hey welcome to the forums. Awesome work with the Renault. Loving it!

[Kirby]

Heres Lewis Hamiltion's 2010 Weapon of choice. ;)

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-03-06at111433PM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-03-06at111423PM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/Screenshot2010-03-06at111353PM.png

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/kirbyjay/CarTex_3a.png

[walczu]

I have little updated cars model. Changes:
#Front wing is like in 2009 and 2010 season
#Rear wing is now smaller
#Rear wheels are bigger then front
#Added light

Screen:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9504/aaaaaav.jpg

[robbyd]

can anyone tell me why the end plates on the rear wings are now a complete mess? I try to add sponsors and decals but it's nigh-on impossible! They just keep splitting and tearing.

And, may I also present to you the Davies Lotus car for the new NSGP F1 season, the RD10. Among our title sponsors include Camel Cigarettes, Red Stripe Lager, Hofner Instruments, Aberlour Whiskey, John Player Special, Fina and Elf.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2795/davieslotus2010.png

It runs on a V8 Cosworth Engine. The drivers, as always will be Graham Hill and Jim Clark.

[walczu]

@robbyd, try to past logos like here:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4010/cartex9a.png
and itll looks on the car like here (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9504/aaaaaav.jpg).

[robbyd]

Thanks for the help Walczu, it seems theres a lot of places where the logos need to be off centre.

Heres an early preview of a Paranhos car that i'm sure at least one person will enjoy.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8854/paranhosgpsample.png

[Paranhos]

You can count on that! :D

[robbyd]

You can count on that! :D

do you have any other sponsors? I've run out, I need about 5 or 6 more for the rear wing, end plates and small patches.

[King Rob]

You can tell that the lotus was crafted with love Robbyd :lol:

[robbyd]

You can tell that the lotus was crafted with love Robbyd :lol:

Indeed it was :), as will the Rated R be, it's still one of my favourite liveries. When I first designed it, I thought the gold and silver shading was very slick, I hope it transfers well to 3D.

[King Rob]

Indeed it was :), as will the Rated R be, it's still one of my favourite liveries. When I first designed it, I thought the gold and silver shading was very slick, I hope it transfers well to 3D.

yeah man I look foward to seeing it:D So is NSGP-3 moving to the 3d format(first there was Jackass 3d, now NSGP-3D) or is this just a flexing of your modding muscles?

[robbyd]

yeah man I look foward to seeing it:D So is NSGP-3 moving to the 3d format(first there was Jackass 3d, now NSGP-3D) or is this just a flexing of your modding muscles?

Perhaps a flexing, perhaps a car pack, perhaps a full blown mod. I'd expect it will end up being the latter, I doubt the temptation to create the Nurburgring on release will be anything but irresistible, as well as a few like the New Star circuit. I'm starting to get the enthusiasm for 3D texturing, which is bad for my 67 mod on the original game, but good for dragging me kicking and screaming into the new age of NSGP!

[robbyd]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8854/paranhosgpsample.png

The finished article, complete with logos and decals.

[King Rob]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8854/paranhosgpsample.png

The finished article, complete with logos and decals.

looks great mate but when I saw it first I can't stop thinking that it reminds me of a real f1 livery possibly from the 90s but I can't place the team, I first thought it was sauber from 99 but im not sure and now its going to bug the ever living hell out of me so thanks for that.....:lol:

[robbyd]

looks great mate but when I saw it first I can't stop thinking that it reminds me of a real f1 livery possibly from the 90s but I can't place the team, I first thought it was sauber from 99 but im not sure and now its going to bug the ever living hell out of me so thanks for that.....:lol:

If it is similar to an actual livery then that is something, it's a complete original to my mind. I'll be interested to see which one it is though!

[King Rob]

If it is similar to an actual livery then that is something, it's a complete original to my mind. I'll be interested to see which one it is though!

maybe its just me but it seems so damn familiar :lol:

[Kirby]

Reminds me of a young Michael Schumacher, debuting in 1991 at the Spa circuit in Belgium. Mercedes paid the Jordan team to let him race, after the previous guy retired or something? And he Qualified really well but had clutch problems or something.. I only recently read about it in an old automobile year book. :lol:

http://www.oskam1.nl/images/JordanFord191-1991.jpg

[LBStrange]

Hey guys here's my submission, comments welcome

[Denby]

Man that is a sweet car!

[LBStrange]

Thanks man, glad you like it! Were having our opening this weekend at Skycity Casino, the public are welcome to come along and meet the drivers/crew. Unfortunately I won't be there as we have a NSGP corporate meeting in Abu Dhabi this Sat but make sure you head down to Skycity for a look!

Begining of a new era!

Remember the name...TKF1!

[robbyd]

Thanks man, glad you like it! Were having our opening this weekend at Skycity Casino, the public are welcome to come along and meet the drivers/crew. Unfortunately I won't be there as we have a NSGP corporate meeting in Abu Dhabi this Sat but make sure you head down to Skycity for a look!

Begining of a new era!

Remember the name...TKF1!

hey LBS, you couldn't add the texture could you? That way I can make some small modifications, and it can go in the next mod?

[robbyd]

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/137/sputnikf1sample.png

Preview of the New Sputnik F1

[bazik]

nice sputnik there kudos.

Is my team still in it?

[robbyd]

nice sputnik there kudos.

Is my team still in it?

Indeed it is, and I shall set to work on it tonight!

[LBStrange]

Here ya go robbyd

[Cookie Monster]

Indeed it is, and I shall set to work on it tonight!

I'll bug you and ask for mine as well :P

[robbyd]

A very early preview of the new Void Racing car, formally known as Bazik F1. I need more sponsors though, so Bazik, if you see this, give me a few ideas ;)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9192/voidpreview.png

[Al24]

I've the HRT F1 Team car (Campos Meta)
My first car:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gN-Pu8XUa-s/S5aKny4L62I/AAAAAAAAANs/WVib5LnAW1g/s1600/HRT.PNG

[Cookie Monster]

A very early preview of the new Void Racing car, formally known as Bazik F1. I need more sponsors though, so Bazik, if you see this, give me a few ideas ;)]

As a Portuguese guy I'll suggest Vodafone, Optimus, TMN, Meo, PT, Clix or ZON. TMN and Meo are the most common sponsors of sports in Portugal.

[LBStrange]

I see you guys have posted the picture rather than the file of your car. I added my car file as an attachment...how do I just post the picture?

[robbyd]

I see you guys have posted the picture rather than the file of your car. I added my car file as an attachment...how do I just post the picture?

you need to host as an imageshack link, then use the image tab on the comment toolbar.

[LBStrange]

Here ya go robbyd

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj462/DenbyStrange/TeamKiwiF1Screenshot1.jpg

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj462/DenbyStrange/TeamKiwiF1-Driver1.jpg

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj462/DenbyStrange/TeamKiwiF1Screenshot2.jpg

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj462/DenbyStrange/TeamKiwiF1-Driver2.jpg

[Kirby]

Nice Liveries :D

Quick Tip, for the Camera's up the top, these colour codes might come in handy

Fluro Orange (First Driver) - ff3c00
Fluro Yellow (Second Driver) - cdff00

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If your using photoshop, just click the colour pallet, (the square thing thats what ever colour) and type in the code in the box on the bottom with the # symbol. Should be the same with other programs as well.

[bazik]

A very early preview of the new Void Racing car, formally known as Bazik F1. I need more sponsors though, so Bazik, if you see this, give me a few ideas ;)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9192/voidpreview.png

Looks great, i liked the portuguese touch with the EDP lol :D

So in keeping with the portuguese touch... here you go:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/TAP_Portugal_Logo.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/CTT-Logo-20080409.png
http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/124456155/116713.html

[Paranhos]

Speaking about editing - what about track creating Si? Any progress or is it far too early? :D

[robbyd]

Speaking about editing - what about track creating Si? Any progress or is it far too early? :D

you would think with only one day until the new season the game is ready...I'd hate to see the game be another few weeks in the making.

Oh and Bazik, with EDP, I do my research thoroughly ;)

[robbyd]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9192/voidpreview.png

Fin!

[bazik]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9192/voidpreview.png

Fin!

Great work !

PS: btw, virgin racing is so lame, copying my livery sigh :P

[desiganp]

Updated Red Bull RB6

* Red Bull MOBILE logo on rear fin
*FXDO on front nose cone
*RENAULT where the engine is
*RED BULL on the rear (replaces GIVES YOU WINGS)
:D:D

[siread]

I'm afraid the game is a few weeks away yet. :(

[Cookie Monster]

How come? Did anything serious happen?

[siread]

SLR hit Steam which messed up my schedule. Now I'm struggling to get motivated. :(

[Mclaren F1]

what application is being used for the car design? BTW i adore that lotus, beautiful. and I take it NSGP2 is new?

-thanks

[redmelons]

I take it NSGP2 is new?

Have a look at 2D or not 2D (http://www.newstargames.com/newstarforum/blog.php?b=56)

[siread]

Yeah, I'm afraid the decision to go 3D has been cancelled. The 3D engine just wasn't working out for me - lots of glitches, not powerful enough etc. Unfortunately this means the car designs done so far will not be used in NSGP 2. (NSGP3 - who knows?)

Anyway, I apologise for leading you guys up the garden path with this thread and wasting your time but I just don't think I could do the game justice in 3D. Also the track creation was taking far too long and probably wouldn't have been ready for months. It has been a bit of a setback for NSGP2, so I don't know exactly when it will be released but I'll be sure to keep you informed via the blog and twitter.

[Sida79]

Aw :|

Too bad it didn't work out (for now). Even if it was too difficult to do at this moment it was pretty clear (in terms of planning) of what has to be done for going 3D, etc.

A number of present NSGP issues, however, seem as if they would need a lot of time and experimentation for a relatively "small" gain, as far as the casual gamer is concerned.

3D would certainly make those less important (assuming some of them would be "easy" to implement anyway) while continuing down the 2D road kind of requires all of those to be solved as a minimum for a game not to appear more as NSGP 1.5?

We'll see I guess :)

[Stump]

I don't think NSGP2 needs 3D but I would like to see elevation? or a better track editor with more selection.

[Mclaren F1]

how do i change colors on Mac OSX.

thanks

[bazik]

I don't think NSGP2 needs 3D but I would like to see elevation? or a better track editor with more selection.

you captured my feelings exactly

[Sida79]

+1 and then some :)

[robbyd]

I posted this on the blog, i think it's pretty comprehensive...

Si, I would be happy to see NSGP go back to it's roots with 2D sprites and top down racing, but there are a lot of significant upgrades needed.

The AI needs further tweaking, as although it was good in NSGP 1 it was far from perfect. I think a system that suits more conservative less 'bumper car' racing would definitely benefit the series.

Tyres should be a big feature, we need separate compounds that degrade at different rates, tyre temperature that optimises tyres at certain points of the race. Moreover, cars should treat their tyres differently, and in the same way Red Bull and Brawn did last season.

Although compartmentalised damage such as wheels coming off is not particularly in the NSGP spirit, things such as engine failures should be on less reliable cars (eg: Red Bull). Each team should have a reliability statistic that dictates their likelihood of finishing the race.

The tracks should be bigger, some of them are just too small at the moment, and we are in dire need of some new track pieces such as the ever evasive 45 degree piece. The editing space too should be much bigger to allow for classic tracks such as Spa Francochamps and Nurburgring.

As for artistic upgrades, implementing a spinning wheel would not be a massive job, and would really increase the appeal visually. As would moving water, crowds and circuits rubbering in with skid marks and visible racing lines appearing over a race weekend. More animated pit lanes with mechanics and realistic pit in animations (instead of the magnetic effect now) wouldn't go amiss. And please make it so the helmets follow drivers, not the car. It makes multi season games a little annoying.

Gameplay; I think that qualifying needs Q1, Q2 and Q3 this year. It's such an integral part, and with the accurate rules would be fantastic fun, even as an extra game mode. Speaking of game modes, a time trial and challenge mode would be great, and really add diversity to the game.

Oh and please please more than anything give us programmable AI statistics

If you want to speak to me, or need a hand in development, i'm only a PM away!

[Stump]

Now were talking, as far as the track editor goes I would like to have the ability to draw the track and get rid of the tiles. Have a track colour and wherever that colour is laid it becomes a drivable section, if you go off the section the car goes slow and walls would be stops. Its got to work on a MAC to.