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gooneysen
01-22-2010, 05:49 PM
Hi there everybody,

just received a newsletter about this new tennis game from NSG, and without even checking it out I went ahead and bought it, in good faith that it might be or become as awesome as the NSS series has been so far. No doubt Simon and his buddies deserve the money, no matter how good NST actually might be right now, but I thought I'd offer my opinion anyway.
And unfortunately I have to say I got a proper ticking-off after a couple minutes. I'm gonna tell you why in a minute.

First off let me start by applauding the effort of making yet another sports game with an entertaining career mode, which I think is always lacking in most of the bigger titles from moronic EA or their competitors.
The whole career part of the game is not exactly a reinvented wheel, much of it we have already seen in NSS. Nevertheless - don't change a winning team, it's good to have sort of the same system in NST because it works just fine, with a few new details to it which I think are cool (e.g. kart racing and other stuff affecting your lifestyle and thus your standing with sponsors, great stuff really :D).

The main reason why I was thrown off my initially rather high excitement-level is the way you actually play a match. The way you control the player, the way you have to hit the ball, the way you determine the direction of the shot. I'm not yet able to exactly tell you what feels wrong, but somehow after playing almost every goddamn tennis game on this planet (starting with Great Courts on an Amiga to the latest VirtuaTennis) NST's match engine doesn't work for me. Apart from the graphics/animations (which are funny to look at but not very refined) I can't seem to get a grip on properly positioning my player towards where the ball's darting, and after that trying to make a well placed shot by fumbling around the circle on the other side. It just doesn't work very well, the controls don't seem to be very intuitive and responsive.

Mind you, I'm playing this on a 2 year old Mac, so I don't know if there are any differences on Windows versions of the game (I guess not).
One of the best Tennis games out there is, in my opinion, Tennis Elbow - at least when it comes down the actual gameplay (match engine). I don't really like their ideas about training and tournament schedules and the rather pointless system of difficulty levels, but controlling the player and his shots feels very realistic and responsive. This is something NST totally lacks.

I don't want to be too negative in my first few comments, NST has barely arrived at version 1.0 and still has a long life and lots of improvements ahead of it, but I'd really like to point the NSG team in a different direction for the match engine, because to make NST a game worthy of the New Star legacy it really needs a different approach.

So long, keep up the great effort, I'll play around a bit more and throw in more cents once I found some... ;)
cu
Goon

Dansk Burger
01-22-2010, 06:43 PM
It just doesn't work very well, the controls don't seem to be very intuitive and responsive.

I also bought the game without trying it out first and my experience is exactly the same as yours. And I'm playing the Windows version.

I've also played every tennis game there is and NST just doesn't feel right. Even for an arcade game. There were some comments about this in previous beta topics (that are deleted now?) and Simon wrote he'd look into it in future releases. I'm looking forward to this as I currently don't enjoy playing the actual matches.

markohladnik
01-22-2010, 06:52 PM
I am sure Simon saved our comments. I generally agree with the control grievances ... and have suggested specific improvements.

maddmatt23
01-22-2010, 06:55 PM
I have played a couple of matches and have yet to have an opponent return a ball. Not sure what i need to do? Any one else see this behavior?

Cookie Monster
01-22-2010, 06:55 PM
I also bought the game without trying it out first and my experience is exactly the same as yours. And I'm playing the Windows version.

I've also played every tennis game there is and NST just doesn't feel right. Even for an arcade game. There were some comments about this in previous beta topics (that are deleted now?) and Simon wrote he'd look into it in future releases. I'm looking forward to this as I currently don't enjoy playing the actual matches.

No no, the old threads were moved to the forum Archive, Si can still read and fix :)

thomasrabelo
01-22-2010, 09:33 PM
I can't return the ball either, nor my opponent. Isn't it a computer speed related issue?

statto
01-22-2010, 09:38 PM
Thomas - it sounds based on what you've said like it's a speed issue with your computer. Try updating your graphics card (apologies if you've already done this).

Maddmatt - are you playing on easy or normal difficulty and on a hard court? Try a quick match on hard on a clay court and see if that "fixes" your problem. If it does, there's a bug in the game. Otherwise you may have the same issue Thomas has.

hellboy1975
01-23-2010, 01:07 AM
I agree 100% with the sentiments of this thread. I also purchased the game before playing because I generally love the New Star games, but after an hour or so with the .93 beta, I won't be back playing this until something is done in regards to the controls.

Thor
01-23-2010, 08:52 AM
I played 0.93 beta and I really liked the controls.
Maybe you should train more? :P

wwwwwww
01-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Some additional thoughts after playing the demo:

- Vertical speed is not consistant with horizontal speed. I've never been able to run back from the net and return a lob shot, even with Federer . . . I mean, Fiderer.

- Left handed players?

- Career mode requires more customization of your player: choosing different style/color of clothes, style/color of raquet, handband, wristbands . . .

- shot-making during play is average at best . . . just not enough control over your types of shots.

statto
01-23-2010, 06:11 PM
wwwwwww is right on vertical speed - a lot of the time I'm on top of or near the ball, swing, and miss.

You can customize your player with sponsors, however there might be a bug currently that only lets you wear white (my shirt sponsorship keeps increasing, but haven't seen a yellow shirt yet).

bsonel
01-24-2010, 02:09 PM
The game is good in general but there are some problems I faced.
The referee makes too many mistakes. It is really annoying if you are on the edge of winning. The other one is that when the opponent hits the ball, it hits the net and drops on my side and this thing happens too much. It happens at least two times a match and it really annoys me. I hope these get fixed.

bsonel
01-24-2010, 02:23 PM
Another thing is that foreign characters are not shown in the game. My player's surname is Önel, but when I win a game it says "GAME NEL" or "GAME $NEL".

chernij
01-24-2010, 03:37 PM
Another thing is that foreign characters are not shown in the game. My player's surname is Önel, but when I win a game it says "GAME NEL" or "GAME $NEL".

Si said this should be fixed in the next update, if I remember correctly.

felipe1337
01-24-2010, 03:51 PM
Game doesn't displays any special characters as of last release ´´^~ ç, some languages need them though, is "ç" supported?